Originally Posted by Master Fuhon

I already gave my example on how to deal with trolls. Unfortunately, what you are referencing here is the classic “good vs. evil” literature, based on the same failed concepts of killing. You really need to have a better grasp of the stories to understand how good and evil are portrayed. There are many stories to go around where the evil creature has the good awakened within it. There are also many stories where the central character does battle with the so called ‘good and evil’ within it.

The decision to diagnose something as evil ends up as a fatal decision. Because when something is defined as pure evil; no one comprehends there being any good in it. So they always try to kill it by brute force. Each time you try to kill something that is very evil; that takes the last bit of good out of it. Poor diagnosis leads to poor solution; you can learn that from all branches of medical science.

Ultimately it’s the way good vs. evil stories get reinterpreted that’s the problem. People go on to believe that forms of pure good and pure evil exist; which they don’t. It’s really appropriate that this is around Easter time right now, because I can reference the Bible as one of these stories. You have the concept of God that refers to a being having both powers of creation and destruction, designing everything in its own image.

I can tell you by now, that this story has been reinterpreted millions of times in favor of the existence of good and evil by now. The reason why involves the literal interpretation that there is a Devil in existence as well as a God. My interpretation had been that God banished its destructive half to the depths, unfortunately resulting in a situation where it would be unaware of the acts it’s destructive half performed. My interpretation of those bible stories is related to seeing God as struggling to cope with both creative and destructive sides within one being.

It’s possible that language has evolved from being partly metaphoric and symbolic towards being something that was strictly more informative and literal. If you want to figure out how to read beyond what these stories appear to be saying, you have to stop reading them with a complete fact-checkers attitude. If these stories were important enough to be written and passed on through thousands of years, you have to find out why. The people who know the ‘what’ do not know nearly as much as the people who know the ‘why’.

Originally Posted by Junato

Way to go overboard, you missed my point. The point is that the screaming and blaming started around 2005 where most people were getting into the game and soloing.

Originally Posted by Master Fuhon

I've heard of previous references stating that blame is a bad thing. But keeping in mind your example, people started to blame and scream in 2005; that is a date very shortly after release and after beta testing.

When I first saw that you used the words "blame and scream", the first thing I thought was that you were defining a human infant (screaming) and a victim (who holds blame) as parts of evil. I know at first that might look very wrong, but when discussing concepts such as good and evil; things are divided in half and attributed only to the two categories. This is what I came up with for blame: Blame is the act of assigning responsibility to the negative consequences of an action.

Screaming was the more difficult concept. Screaming is the act of producing a loud and unpleasant sound to draw attention to oneself. People don't scream when they aren't aware that something bad is happening, only when they are aware. So in actuality, you have just defined part of being evil as "awareness of evil". I actually agree with this assessment. You can't know something that isn't or hasn't been a part of yourself. Once something is a part of yourself, it is also unlikely that you can do anything to rid yourself of it (I can't state impossible, although it seems like so).

So while agreeing with those concepts, what I do not see right now is your claim that there was a time when evil did not exist. And your second statement was even further along this progression: that evil came from outside and not from a place already within. But I'm going to point out why I cannot disagree with you or challenge you on this matter: I did not have previous awareness of what blame and screaming were because I had not defined those terms, but you just gave me awareness of them. So as far as this discussion goes, the experts on evil are always those who have greater awareness of it.

But the discussion matters very much because it would defeat my previous statement that evil had to be integrated and balanced (because your claim that it came from outside leads you directly to the theory that it gets destroyed). So at this point, I would like to warn you that evil has been previously defined as coming from ignorance or lack of knowledge. I am close to confirming this on my own, although if I intended to be lazy I would reference the story of 'Buddha' as has been documented. So the very claim of knowing more about evil than me comes with my claim that I know more about your ignorance than you do.

After this further consideration, I have actually grown more fixed in my position.

Originally Posted by Master Fuhon

Seems to me destroying evil would destroy all knowledge.